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Title: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:07:32 AM
Quote from: ChrillWell, I was bored, and procrastinating since I have my history final tomorrow. I entered the topic of "2008 Formula One Season" and took a look at the reserve/test drivers of that year. Out of all test/reserves of 2008, all these have gone on to race in Formula 1 at least temporarily:

Luca Badoer
Michael Schumacher
Christian Klien
Romain Grosjean
Lucas di Grassi
Sakon Yamamoto
Nico Hülkenberg
Sébastien Buemi
Kamui Kobayashi

Vitantonio Liuzzi
Pedro de la Rosa

11 drivers from 2008, 4 of which are permanent F1 race drivers in 2011!!

Anyone else finding some weirdo facts, or am I the only one crazy enough? Probably so


Yeah, probably just you.  Just 11 test/reserve drivers in '08 - give Renault another couple of years and they'll have a dozen of their own.

If only that exam was on the history of F1....


Quote from: ChrillI know F1 history fairly well from around 2004 to today, but the further back the less I know. I'd say I have merely a general understanding of the 90s :P


... but 'History of F1' would've made for an interesting course.  How went the actual history exam?


Quote from: ChrillIt went well, I got an A in that class (had I actually been studying at University, I'd have a GPA of 3.92 :P)


Hey hey, I renamed this topic to fit this in:

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/50699.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

Not actual important news, but hey, who gives a bloody ?


HA!  What a muppet.  Looks like he was trying to leap the car....

Oh yeah, I've no idea what a GPA of 3.92 equates to, but based on your choice of smiley it's obviously pretty good.  So well done with that.


Quote from: ChrillHeh, well.. I had 6 A's (2 of them A-), 1 B+ and 1 C+. The GPA of 3.92 was for the second semester only, where I had all A's (one A-) :P


Quote from: MattSo... a 3.63 overall?


Quote from: ChrillHmm, I'm looking up my WebPortal stuffs grading...  3.62 overall!


Force India is to auction off a hand-painted VJM01 (their first car), with money raised split between Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children and Force India's Academy - which supports motor racing initiatives for Indian children.  The car was lovingly painted by Dexter Brown, pictures of car below:

- Dead links to dead pic host -

Too bad he didn't go with scenes of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the African plains, at least on one side of the car - perhaps elephants on the other.


Quote from: ChrillIf someone allowed me to paint anything I liked on an F1 car, I'd paint boobies.


Didn't doubt that for a second.  :P


Quote from: LjudDunno where to put it, but it's so brilliant I have to share it. Today's best line from our commentator: "Tyres for dry rain."


Sounds like you have a Slovenian Murray Walker - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Walker - on your hands. Cherish it.

Some on-air Murray quotes:

"Do my eyes deceive me, or is Senna's Lotus sounding rough?"

"Alboreto has dropped back up to fifth place"

Murray: "What's that? There's a BODY on the track!!!"
James: "Um, I think that that is a piece of BODY-WORK, from someone's car."

"I don't want to tempt fate but Damon Hill is now only half a lap from his first Grand Prix win and..and HE'S SLOWING DOWN, DAMON HILL IS SLOWING DOWN..HE'S..HE'S STOPPED."

Murray: "And look at the flames coming from the back of Berger's McLaren."
James: "Actually, Murray, they're not flames, it's the safety light."

"...and there's no damage to the car.....except to the car itself."

"This is an interesting circuit because it has inclines, and not just up, but down as well."

"Only a few more laps to go and then the action will begin, unless this is the action, which it is."

"Andrea de Cesaris...the man who has won more Grand Prix than anyone else without actually winning one of them."


Quote from: ChrillAh, we have our very own take on that. The difference is, Murray Walker just found the wrong words and our commentator is just completely incompetent and useless and rubbish. Take this race at the Hungaroring: When it started raining and Hamilton spun, they said (after Button had passed Hamilton and after the two lapped the Force India) "I'm hearing reports about rain on parts of the track". Meanwhile, it had been pouring for at least 10-15 seconds on camera. I can't believe they don't just WATCH the damn race, I could spot the rain despite using a stupid proxy stream :P


Ah, so you're burdened with an idiot rather than an intelligent but occasionally tongue/brain-tied M. Walker type.  You know I do miss the Murray moments... although he was getting worse as the years went by.


Quote from: ChrillIndeed. The same guy has been doing the commentating since forever. He's got the perfect TV voice but he's a retard (The Hangover movie pronunciation)


Quote from: LjudAh, sounds familiar Chrill. Same situation here. The man's jumping around in his little commentator's room (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sgpe2pdNZI), shouting and generally missing all the action on the track; always very slow, etc. etc. He's kinda good as a journalist(?), but he's just not doing his job on commentating. Plus, he just won't shut up when there's 'team radio'. Then when he's supposed to translate it, he's all like "I didn't here that well." Of course you didn't, you were talking. At least he manages to say something funny often enough. :D


Quote from: LjudThe man's jumping around in his little commentator's room (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sgpe2pdNZI), shouting and generally missing all the action on the track;
Good grief.  He would drive me mad within 15 minutes; I prefer my commentary on the calmer side.


Quote from: ChrillI absolutely love the Brundle-Coulthard line-up. They are amazingly entertaining. During the Canadian GP a few months back.. Heck, they kept doing commentary during that break and I was never bored. Talking about birds and boats and all. It was entertaining even then because they're just great ;D


Echoes my feelings exactly.  Sadly we must enjoy them while we can - I'm almost certain Sky will poach Brundle (in the sense of luring him over as presenter rather than what one might do to an egg), but suspect they may pair him with one of their own over DC.  Though whether or not he follows Brundle is kind of irrelevant unless you have Sky Sports....


Quote from: ChrillWell.. I heard some Tweets from Brundle about the Sky deal. He was "not impressed"


Yes, not impressed to find out with the rest of us poor slobs that the BBC walked (ran?) from its exclusive F1 deal.  I'm sure the number of noughts on a BSkyB offer to Brundle will impress him in a more positive manner.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:13:23 AM
A quirky little good news story (albeit with a somewhat misleading title) - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/8700621/F1-fan-receives-bionic-hand-from-Mercedes-team.html


Quote from: ChrillThat actually is a lovely story to read. Seems the hand is more or less as useful as a real hand, too, which basically eliminates the handicap (once he knows how to use it properly, of course)


Quote from: CabanacatThe dream of every heterosexual man on the planet taken by Mr. Cruise.
http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/Article/tom-cruise-red-bull-f1-021243071792929 (http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/Article/tom-cruise-red-bull-f1-021243071792929)


Well he's the right build for it.  I'd struggle to get my shoulders in an F1 car....


Quote from: Chrill
Quote from: Cabanacat
The dream of every heterosexual man on the planet taken by Mr. Cruise.
http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/Article/tom-cruise-red-bull-f1-021243071792929 (http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/Article/tom-cruise-red-bull-f1-021243071792929)

I'd want to see a video of that


Back from the dead!

Rosberg vs. Villeneuve at Long Beach GP of 1982 - commentary by Murray Walker & James Hunt (posh voice): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y0kdfyNpzYU

Got to smile at Ferrari with their sneaky double rear-wing, although not clever sneaky as they were subsequently disqualified from the race.


Quote from: ChrillIt's not THAT sneaky, it's pretty obvious really :D


Quote from: ChrillOnly one driver competing in the 2000 Formula One Season is also competing in 2013 - Jenson Button! However, Kimi Räikkönen, Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber were all test drivers that season.

If we move to the 2003 season (ten years ago) only four 2013 drivers were competing. Button, Raikkonen, Alonso, Webber. Massa raced in 2002 but not in 2003, I guess you can count him in. So only 5 out of 22 drivers have an F1 career lasting 10 or more years. Not even any 2003 test drivers on the grid this year; the most noteworthy 2003 testers include Alex Wurz, Allan McNish, Takuma Sato and Antonio Pizzonia (and aforementioned Felipe Massa).

EDIT: Actually, it's the exact same for the 2005 Formula One season too. Button, Raikkonen, Alonso, Webber, Massa. 2005 also included Narain Karthikeyan and Pedro de la Rosa to name a few drivers who left us after 2012! In 2005, though, we had more test drivers; Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica and Sebastian Vettel. In 2006, those names joined the grid. Then, in 2007, we also got Adrian Sutil and Lewis Hamilton. Then there's Super Aguri of course. Takuma Sato and Anthony Davidson.

Actually, only 9 of the 2013 drivers also raced in 2008. That's a lower number than I expected. 2008 racers who we have forced out from our memory include Kazuki Nakajima, Sebastien Bourdais and... No, actually most 2008 drivers are fairly respected and not really pay drivers. I mean, we have Fisichella, Barrichello, Kubica, Heidfeld, Trulli and Coulthard. Not exactly rookie pay drivers, that lot.


... definitely wouldn't accuse any of them of being rookies!

Having just five off the 2005 grid really illustrates F1's constant churn; in fact I doubt that dropping all bar five racers over an eight year timeframe is anything unusual, so let's compare driver lists for the opening round of the '98 and '90 seasons: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/1998/164/  and: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/1990/215/

So there's Alesi, and, erm, nobody else.  Now that may well be an exceptional case, but if we do the same with '86 and '94 there are still only four drivers who spanned both seasons - and tragically one of those wouldn't see much more of 1994.


Quote from: ChrillWell then, there you go. I just feel like we've had an exceptional amount of rookies joining the F1 series too early, often replacing those who deserve to stay. Kovalainen is a prime example of that, so is Glock. To an extent, perhaps also Trulli and Heidfeld.


This year's line-up is something of a rookie-fest; five from twenty two is quite some ratio... I hope the new Caterham & Marussia chaps are well behaved backmarkers.

Can't believe you didn't mention Kamui in your 'drivers who deserve to stay' mini-list, I'll assume 'twas just an oversight.  I'd say Algyswearee is another who got the F1 boot to soon.


Quote from: ChrillI overlooked Kobayashi on purpose. The names I mentioned are all drivers with long experience in Formula 1. I can't really say Kobayashi has long experience. I agree that both Kobayashi and Alguersuari should have been given a new chance.


Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:19:35 AM
Fangio's 1954 Mercedes W196 is up for auction: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/9939569/Ex-Fangio-racer-could-fetch-more-than-10-million.html

One wonders whether today's F1 machines will generate such interest sixty years down the road....


Quote from: ChrillI guess this topic fits... We all know people complained about the changes made to F1 regulations, forcing the new front and rear wings. Take a look at the 2006 world champion.

(http://www.formula1.com/wi/gi/enlarge/1140x706/popup/sw-N/sutton/2006/d06chn1602.jpg)

That is a hideous front wing but a sweet rear wing. Why can't we have a combination of the pre-2012 front wings (before stepped noses) and the old rear wings? PLZ.


Because the FIA hates us?  Kidding, well sort of, but don't forget the wide front wings did have a purpose to them in allowing one to more closely follow another car through the twisty bits, or at least that was the theory; I do like those old-style rear wings though.  Shame F1 teams rejected the ground effects and skinny wings route proposed a couple of years back, could've been an interesting (non-DRS) path to take.


Quote from: ChrillI don't mind the wide front wings really. The tall narrow rear wings are what troubles me! I prefer these low wide rear wings.


Don't we all.  Well, we both do, which is a fine start.


Minardi at their best, smoothly servicing Esteban Tuero's car during the '98 Argentine GP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuOOy9DgIVg


Quote from: Chrill
Quote from: Penfold on April 22, 2013, 03:25:47 AM
Minardi at their best, smoothly servicing Esteban Tuero's car during the '98 Argentine GP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuOOy9DgIVg
Heh.. Hah. HAHA. It just keeps getting better. Oh my. That is worse than when McLaren forgets that Button requires all 4 tyres to be fitted.


Love the mechanic about 20 seconds into the stop who runs a tyre (still in blanket, of course) right round the back of the car, stops dead, realizes he's on the wrong side and just casually hands it across the car's nose.  What the hell was going through Tuero's mind as he saw all this.  Don't get moments of such comic genius anymore, although McLaren does try.


Quote from: ChrillThe following is an actual quote from the Wikipedia page for the 1998 Argentine Grand Prix:

"When Esteban Tuero came into the pits, one of his tyres was missing. Eventually, one of the mechanics found it in the garage."


Here's a bit of an old news piece (well, a month old) regarding Felipe Massa:

http://www.yallaf1.com/2013/03/21/massa-gets-record-for-longest-win-drought-by-a-ferrari-driver/


Interesting.  To be fair to Alesi & Alboreto the Ferraris they raced weren't known for their reliability: Michele's 55 consecutive races without a win, which began after his victory in Germany '85, included 29 retirements; Alesi's 67-race winless streak contained 35 DNFs; whereas Massa's now 71-race winless run has a mere 7 DNFs peppered through it.  Of course is Massa allowed to beat Alonso...?


Quote from: ChrillMassa would indeed have won during this streak had he not been told Alonso was faster than him in Germany.


Quote from: MattWell. Maybe. Was Alonso actually faster than him? Would it have taken opposite team orders to keep Alonso behind him?


Quote from: LjudFernando, Felipe is slower than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?


Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:24:27 AM
Michael Schumacher back with the Merc F1 team for Nurburgring: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/04/25/schumacher-drive-f1-car-nurburgring-nordschleife/


Micky boy lapping the Nordschleife in a 2011 Merc F1 car: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/05/28/onboard-with-michael-schumacher-on-the-nurburgring-nordschleife/

Lapping it damn slowly... after the first few minutes the car seems to be hitting the rev limiter at a pretty low speed.


Quote from: Chrillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkoneMw2sV0

Well. Maldonado.


What a rare find... a Maldo video where nothing gets hit.


Quote from: ChrillWell, that is true. Still, it's classic Maldonado.


Yes, but I always expect contact... typically with another car: http://youtu.be/97s07SpF8tU


Quote from: Chundlah
Quote from: Penfold
Interesting.  To be fair to Alesi & Alboreto the Ferraris they raced weren't known for their reliability: Michele's 55 consecutive races without a win, which began after his victory in Germany '85, included 29 retirements; Alesi's 67-race winless streak contained 35 DNFs; whereas Massa's now 71-race winless run has a mere 7 DNFs peppered through it.  Of course is Massa allowed to beat Alonso...?

I know this is rather an old topic but I was just reading through now.  Alboreto would have probably have broken his win-less streak at Monza in '88 had the pits not been telling him he was running out of fuel as he was catching team mate Berger hand over fist.  Oddly enough it turned out that he had plenty left in the tank when he crossed the finishing line, which just goes to show how much he had fallen out of favour at Maranello that they stopped an Italian from winning his and their home race...


Quote from: ChrillAaaaaah they're doing a raceday show of Formula 1 in my former town Örebro in about three weeks. Marcus Ericsson will drive a Caterham through the city center, they'll have some old F1 cars too (old Jaguar with a V10 for example) and lots of other cars from other series. ADHASDDHJASOU. I'll have to be there.


Quote from: ChundlahAt least Ericsson will have a chance of finishing first.  I remember when F1 did a demonstration run through London a few years back, it's a great chance to see the cars close up so don't miss it...


Quote from: ChrillSo I just found out today my boss at work is co-owner of a team racing in the Formula Renault 2.0 NEC (Nordic European Cup), Prizma Motorsport team. A series where Valtteri Bottas, Kevin Magnussen and Danil Kvyat have raced. This year, they are fielding a 16-year old Swede who is also part of a Red Bull simulator program, Pontus Fredricsson. Very amazings!!


As posted on f1fanatic, here's a real blast from the past http://www.pacificgrandprix.com/

No updates in twenty years....


Quote from: ChundlahI had completely forgotten about them. 35 employees, eh? Lean...


Quote from: LjudSplendid website there!

Another fact(s):
Excluding Kevin Magnussen and Alexander Rossi (or counting Merhi/Rossi as one) and further excluding test sessions, so rather focusing on the actual GPs, the 2015 driver line-up started their careers in 10 different teams (or 8 if we ignore buying/renaming teams). Most current drivers started their career in (perhaps surprisingly) Williams (5 drivers). Second on the list is Sauber with 4 drivers (and here we could add 1 driver starting his career in BMW-Sauber), then there's Toro Rosso with 3, Manor Marussia with 2 and tied with 1 driver each are Renault, Minardi, McLaren, HRT, Caterham and already mentioned BMW-Sauber.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:28:10 AM
Quote from: Chrill(http://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/5900000/5990000/5997000/5997600/5997664/s8/f1-formula-1-designs-from-2030-2015-a-possible-future-semi-closed-canopy-design-for-formul.jpg)

That looks nice. A sort of semi-canopy solution where the driver is extractable but still protected. How good would their vision be behind that?


That's going to need some big old tear-off strips to clear the muck spewed out by the car in front.


Quote from: Chrill
Quote from: Penfold on November 06, 2015, 07:03:14 AM
That's going to need some big old tear-off strips to clear the muck spewed out by the car in front.
Spolarvätska. Or, you know, windscreen washer fluid. I don't know the English term for it.


Looks an awkward shape for windscreen wipers....


McLaren's F1 concept, the MP4-X:  www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/12/03/mclaren-is-latest-team-to-reveal-an-f1-of-the-future-car-design/

(http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/mclaren-mp4-x-8.jpg)


Quote from: LjudWithout these (or with better shaped) triangular tank front wheel things, it'd look pretty sexy. Still better than that Ferrari a few posts above, because that nose... just no.


Agree with all that.  Front wheel lumps aside it's a fine looking concept.


Max Verstappen, an RB7, and an Austrian mountain: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/01/14/verstappen-takes-to-the-ski-slopes-in-a-red-bull-rb7/


Quote from: Chrillhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFuPaD3w-8

Let's take a look at Mika overtaking the Michael.


Reckon it must be the move at Spa back in, what, '99 or 2000.  Now I'll give the link a click....

That's the one.  Mika calling him 'The Michael', great stuff.


Quote from: ChrillIsn't it ironic?
https://twitter.com/autosportnewsf1/status/719120014746357760


If we could just slide an 'Ex' in at the start....
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:32:09 AM
Quote from: ChundlahI wasn't sure where to put this, but Bernie is an irrelevant fact of F1 and it is news so...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/36086363

I bet Bernie walked off stage and thought "bugger, I forgot to rant about the disabled."


The way it's going there won't be many fans around if/when F1 has another woman racing: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/20/f1-has-lost-one-third-of-its-tv-audience-since-2008/


Quote from: ChrillDon't worry, we can all switch to MotoGP. Any female riders?


Quote from: ChundlahNot in the premier category, I think there's a couple of Spanish in moto3 and Jenny Tinmouth competes in bsb...


Quote from: ChrillBeing a bit bored, I did some math. Since Max Verstappen joined Red Bull, he has scored 108 points. In that time, Ricciardo has scored 125 points. This despite Max winning in Spain.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. Ricciardo is fantastic. Not that anyone doubted him.


If Red Bull do their thing and adapt with style to next year's new regs, and who would bet against them, then we could have one seriously tasty fight for supremacy between Dan & Max right at the pointy end of the grid.


Quote from: Chrill(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtiN_1wWgAABQ2g.jpg:large)

How many of these can you name? I could name all but one of these guys (one of the Sauber boys). DO YER BEST.


Quote from: MattNot a ton since I didn't start watching until 2003. I can basically name anyone who was still around in 2003.

Top: Button, Ralf
Middle: Jos, de la Rosa, JB, HHF, Gene
Bottom: Fisi, Coulthard, Hakkinen, Schumacher, Rubens, Heidfeld


Top: Diniz, Salo, Button, Ralf, Irvine, Herbert
Middle: Jos, de la Rosa. Villeneuve, pass , Frentzen, Trulli (train), Gene, pass
Bottom: Fisi, Wurz, DC, Hakkinen, Schumacher, Rubens, Alesi, Heidfeld


Quote from: ChrillVery good. Villeneuve was partnered by Zonta and Gene by Argentine driver Gaston Mazzacane. I failed to name Diniz though.


So that's what Ricardo Zonta looks (looked) like, who knew?  Mind you, that Gaston chap made such an impression I don't even recognise the name.


Quote from: ChrillI recall Mazzacane's name simply from playing F1 2000 a lot and 10-year old Chrill found it funny.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:35:06 AM
Quote from: ChrillLewis Hamilton is a video game character.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvEKJ6PXgAApeGe.jpg)


Quote from: ChrillMax Verstappen is the youngest driver to finish third, fourth, and fifth in the same Grand Prix.
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Magnussen is the first Magnussen to not get fired after the Canadian Grand Prix since 1997, when Magnussen did not get fired.
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Esteban Ocon is the first F1 driver called Esteban since Esteban Tuero, apart from Esteban Gutiérrez.
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Haas is the first F1 team called Haas since Haas, which wasn't Haas.
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Current F1 cars are 15 seconds a lap faster than they were at a completely different circuit.


These, and many other IMPORTANT F1 FACTS, can be found at Twitter account @BadF1Stats. Good fun.


Quote from: ChrillThe 2016 cars are actually the fastest ever F1 cars. Williams FW38 reached 372.5 km/h (231.5mph) in Mexico which is the highest official speed measured in a session of the F1 calendar.

In Baku, they went even faster according to their own telemetry, 378 km/h (235mph). Not bad, Williams. Not bad at all.


A record that will likely stand for some time as next year's changes means they'll be slower in a straight line (more drag), but of course significantly faster round all the twisty bits.


Quote from: ChrillQuite. We'll definitely smash lap times in 2017 on most tracks. Probably not Monza.


Lewis Hamilton became the first driver to win a race without making a pitstop since Mika Salo in Monaco in 1997, who didn't actually win.

Marcus Ericsson has outqualified every other Swedish driver on the grid for the first time since the 2016 Mexican Grand Prix.

Lance Stroll will be the oldest 18 year old to make their debut in the history of F1.


Them's some quality stats....


Quote from: ChrillCan we expect The Donald to replace Nico?

(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15319270_2284891038315869_4694173304334139779_n.jpg?oh=692f5255b914ae6607ff1966a5f9f57e&oe=58F862ED)
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 07, 2017, 02:37:39 AM
Quote from: Chrillhttp://www.formula1.com/en/video/2016/12/8-Bit_F1_2016_Season_Review.html

This is fantastic.


Quote from: ChrillOnce every year, Swedish charity "Radiohjälpen" (literally the Radio help) arrange a 7 day continuous broadcast from a glass box placed on a square in a Swedish city. The 3 hosts broadcast for 7 days straight (sleeping 6 hours per day, broadcasting 18 hours per day). This year, it's arranged in Örebro which is where I used to live and where Marcus Ericsson comes from.

One way of raising money is through auctions on basically the Swedish eBay. Marcus Ericsson is auctioning a race helmet from the 2016 season. After an hour, highest bid is 30000 SEK (£2560, $3200). The auction is open for another 72 hours. That's a pretty large sum for a sweaty old helmet used by someone finishing at the top of the back of the pack. ;D


Loved the 8-bit season review.  Very well done if a little on the short side; well, that's really just me being greedy and wanting a few more minutes of retro action - for starters why no Max V. in Brazil?


Quote from: Chrill
Quote from: Penfold
Loved the 8-bit season review.  Very well done if a little on the short side; well, that's really just me being greedy and wanting a few more minutes of retro action - for starters why no Max V. in Brazil?
I'm guessing the review was made prior to that and no time left to update it.

Updating Ericsson's helmet, we've sprinted past the 50k mark and the bid stands at 56,000 SEK which is £4800 or $6000 or ¥703,000 or 3700 Latvian Lats or 196,877,042 ﷼  (Iranian Rials) or 1823 د.ك (Kuwaiti Dinars - the strongest currency in circulation today) or 7 and a half bitcoins.


Quote from: ChrillThe only driver to score points in all his races this season is Stoffel Vandoorne. Good job. 100% hit rate on them points.


Based on that, I'm expecting a stellar 2017 for this Van Door chap.


Quote from: ChrillLewis Hamilton on the cover of TIME Magazine.
http://time.com/lewis-hamilton-formula-one/
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Chrill on March 29, 2017, 08:33:25 AM
"Bad F1 Stats" at Twitter have done it again:

With a current streak of one, Sebastian Vettel only has to win the next eight Grands Prix to match his record for the most consecutive wins.

The Race of Champions Miami circuit is 38 seconds long in honour of how long Felipe Massa was champion for.


Also, following Nico Rosberg announcing his retirement from racing after his world title:
This is Nico Rosberg's first retirement since the 2016 Spanish Grand Prix.

Rosberg is the first Rosberg to win the championship since Rosberg.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 30, 2017, 12:29:28 AM
The last one is indisputable.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Chrill on April 10, 2017, 06:47:18 AM
The Chinese Grand Prix was Fernando Alonso's 275th race. Coincidentally, it was also the 275th time he drove 'the best race of his career'.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on April 10, 2017, 07:00:39 AM
... he also had another 'best ever' qualifying lap.  Man, is he ever on top form.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on April 19, 2017, 04:47:42 AM
We must've been good to deserve this: it's another round of 'F1 concept car'!  This time we have Renault pushing their crystal balls into overdrive as they peer deep into the future (well, ten years) to delight/amuse us with this vision of racing's future:

(https://s9.postimg.org/vo1mygmdr/2027_Renault_01.jpg)


More words to read & pictures to peruse: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/04/19/renault-reveals-1300bhp-f1-concept-car-2027/
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Post by: Chrill on April 19, 2017, 06:20:36 AM
That's... interesting. I don't like it.

I like the idea of the engine, but the car looks like "trying too hard to look retro-futuristic". Meh.
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Post by: Chrill on April 26, 2017, 01:19:54 AM
I giggled.
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Post by: Penfold on April 26, 2017, 02:12:53 AM
'Ferrari, Seb Fan' didn't seem to....
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Post by: Chrill on June 12, 2017, 05:23:32 AM
Stroll is the first Canadian not named Villeneuve to score points in an F1 race.
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Post by: Chrill on June 12, 2017, 05:24:27 AM
Hamilton now has the same number of pole positions as Ayrton Senna and Bruno Senna combined.
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Post by: Penfold on June 13, 2017, 07:24:33 AM
... and in fewer races.
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Post by: Chrill on June 13, 2017, 09:12:22 AM
Quite. Lewis on 195 entries, A. Senna on 162. Senna version B on 46.
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Post by: Penfold on June 16, 2017, 05:37:22 AM
Senna was the King of qualifying, best of the modern era for sure.
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Post by: Chrill on July 14, 2017, 01:33:39 AM
This was kind of sweet. The oldest person to drive a modern F1 car is 79-year old Rosemary Smith, former rally driver.
http://en.f1i.com/news/273404-video-rosemary-smith-79-just-tested-renault-f1-car.html
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Post by: Penfold on July 14, 2017, 01:40:58 AM
... but was she faster than Palmer?
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Post by: Chrill on July 14, 2017, 08:12:19 AM
One would assume she was. Yes. I am putting her on the list for 2018.
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Post by: Chrill on July 18, 2017, 03:56:49 AM
So. We (well, the F1 community) sometimes brings up bonus points for fastest lap or pole position, like its done in Formula 2. I saw a comment on a Facebook post that I liked more. What if teams got constructors bonus points for things like fastest pit stop?

These points would not count for the driver, but would count for the teams. That should give them an incentive to further improve their pit stops. Let us be honest, fast pit stops are really cool to see. They are already close to going under 2 seconds (they have done once or twice. Williams and Red Bull both did 1.92 right?).
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Post by: Penfold on July 23, 2017, 01:52:27 AM
Interesting idea but I'd rather see safe pit-stops (all wheels secured) than blisteringly fast ones.  Actually I don't much care for pit-stops in racing: I like my overtaking done (without DRS) out on the track rather than with undercuts/overcuts.
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Post by: Chrill on July 30, 2017, 02:23:33 PM
With Vettel winning this race, we've had 4 different winners in succession: Ricciardo, Bottas, Hamilton Vettel. This hasn't happened since 2012, when the following 7 won consecutive races:

Button, Alonso, Rosberg, Vettel, PASTOR MALDONADO, Webber, Hamilton. That season saw 8 winners over the full year, with Raikkonen joining the fray near the end of the season.

With 4 different winners this year, we're just awaiting a Verstappen or a Raikkonen win to bring the total to 5. That would be the highest number of different winners in a season with this engine formula. 4 is tied with last year. It is not inevitable that one of the two will win this season. Raikkonen should have, today. Also in Monaco.

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Post by: Chrill on July 31, 2017, 02:49:28 AM
Also, the 2017 Hungarian Grand Prix was the first GP to not feature a Brazilian driver since the 1982 San Marino Grand Prix where 4 teams boycotted the race. That's 35 years ago. The same race would also be Gilles Villeneuve's final race, since he was killed during qualifying for the next race, the Belgian Grand Prix.
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Post by: Chrill on August 21, 2017, 04:41:43 AM
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/prema-would-be-keen-on-f1-customer-car-entry-941982/

Prema would do F1 if they could run customer cars.
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Post by: Penfold on August 21, 2017, 07:16:50 AM
That's jolly good of them.  Of course customer cars equals death to teams like Williams & Force India....
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Post by: Chrill on September 17, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Every time Jolyon Palmer doesn't have a drive for next season he finishes in the top six.
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Post by: Penfold on September 19, 2017, 04:14:17 AM
So he's going to rack up a nice pot of points in the coming races... and then he'll be scooped up by Williams.
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Post by: Chrill on September 19, 2017, 05:31:29 AM
It's a statistical must.
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Post by: Chrill on October 13, 2017, 02:21:30 AM
https://www.blocket.se/malmo/BMW_M1_Sauber_F1_42520178.htm?ca=23_11&w=0&last=1

This car is on sale in Sweden. It's a 2006 BMW Sauber driven by Nick Heidfeld. BUY IT. 9 million SEK, that's about 1.1 million dollars.
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Post by: Penfold on October 13, 2017, 03:13:38 AM
Probably wouldn't buy it even if I won the EuroMillions jackpot, and seeing as I don't actually play the lottery that makes it doubly unlikely.
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Post by: Chrill on October 13, 2017, 05:08:36 AM
That does it make it unlikely, Penfold.
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Post by: Chrill on October 31, 2017, 12:30:43 AM
In another life, Lewis Hamilton is working at a store selling air conditioning units

"We've got the best fans here..."
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Post by: Penfold on November 01, 2017, 01:14:05 AM
 :)
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Post by: Chrill on November 16, 2017, 07:29:38 AM
Here's an incredible fact for you:

The last season to NOT feature a driver who at one point in their F1 career partnered Michael Schumacher was 1976. In 1977, young gun Riccardo Patrese debuted in Formula 1. In 1993, he drove a Benetton alongside Michael. Since then, a long list of drivers have driven alongside Michael Schumacher. With Massa retiring and Rosberg no longer in F1, no 2018 will have partnered Schumacher in F1. Of course, Vettel has competed with the Michael in Race of Champions so we've got that going for us. Which is nice.
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Post by: Penfold on November 17, 2017, 02:30:48 AM
A forty-year span of Schumacher linkage... that is fairly incredible.
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Post by: Chrill on November 17, 2017, 02:36:21 AM
Of course, linkage can be traced to Max Verstappen through his dad so if you count next of kin then the era of Schumacher links is not yet over.

Then again, Nico Rosberg may return to F1 in 2019 if some whispers are to be believed, so we shall see.
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Post by: Penfold on November 17, 2017, 07:03:37 AM
I hope he doesn't bother, there's plenty of new talent out there scrapping over the few available seats.
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Post by: Chrill on February 20, 2018, 02:24:56 AM
Sauber F1 Team has posted a driver's championship table on their website for 2018.

(https://i.imgur.com/z0kTN0El.png)
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Post by: Chrill on April 01, 2018, 06:19:40 AM
Beautiful video regarding Charles Leclerc and his F1 debut, focusing a bit on his late father and his childhood friend Jules Bianchi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5klrZThDFHY
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Post by: Chrill on April 09, 2018, 01:57:36 PM
Most F1 starts  in a row without a points finish:

1.    Heikki Kovalainen (53)
2.    Timo Glock (52)
3.    Luca Badoer (50)
4.    Marcus Ericsson (49)
5.    Esteban Gutierrez (44)
6.    Charles Pic (39)
7.    Narain Karthikeyan (37)
8.    Christijan Albers (37)
9.    Jarno Trulli (36)
10.    Max Chilton (35)

Thank gosh Marcus finished in the points in Bahrain. Not in the top 3. He'll have to miss out on points until the middle of 2021 if he is to attack his chart again. He'll not be in F1 that long, so no worries.
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Post by: Matt on April 09, 2018, 03:52:30 PM
To be fair, Kovalainen and Glock were both pretty good drivers. That?s why they ended up on this list, Manor and Caterham (or whatever they were called at the time) wanted to hire them as experienced drivers.
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Post by: Chrill on April 10, 2018, 12:49:48 AM
Sure, but Marky Mark Eric Wahlberg Son is ahead of names like Karthikeyan, Albers, and Chilton.
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Post by: Chrill on September 27, 2018, 02:36:27 PM
Well this was a sweet and unusually kind article about Ericsson:
https://wtf1.com/post/why-well-miss-marcus-ericsson-from-formula-1-next-year/
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Post by: Penfold on October 13, 2018, 03:41:27 AM
An F1 survey about DRS states that 56% of those asked believe the system makes overtaking too easy: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.f1-fan-voice-fans-have-their-say-on-drs.3Vwphuskn6gukaO08U2aSu.html

I'm somewhat disappointed that it was only 56%. 
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Post by: Chrill on October 13, 2018, 02:04:16 PM
I think people have become accustomed to DRS by now. Yes it makes overtaking DRS but until they build cars capable of racing we sort of need it.
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Post by: Matt on October 14, 2018, 10:17:24 PM
Yeah, the alternative is no passing. It's still the lesser of two evils. But F1 will lack in the racing department until they can find a way to have passing without DRS again.
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Post by: Chrill on October 15, 2018, 12:29:05 AM
Agreed. The 2019 regulations aim to change that somewhat, 2020 will develop it further and 2021 (supposedly) will be the full iteration of this overtaking group that F1 has got going under Ross Brawn.
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Post by: Penfold on October 15, 2018, 03:53:18 AM
Pity F1 made a bad situation worse with the 2017 regs by going against the findings of the 2008 Overtaking Working Group; people did say at the time that said regs would worsen the dirty air issue, but the FIA ploughed on regardless in its usual arrogant manner.

It's immensely depressing (within the very limited context of how much I actually care about F1) that overtaking has become ever more reliant on DRS, a supposedly temporary measure, in these past eight years, but it's even more depressing when they go and give a track like Spa a massive DRS zone which strips away any excitement/tension from the racing.  If nothing else, you would hope by now that they'd be tailoring DRS use so that it makes overtaking a possibility rather than a foregone conclusion, and at some circuits (the ones not blessed/cursed with hugely long straights) that is the case, but then they go and ruin Spa and take another small piece of my affection for the sport.
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Post by: Chrill on October 22, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
Since Ferrari announced Leclerc as Kimi's 2019 replacement, Vettel has finished in third at best and scored a total of 50 points. Kimi has won a race and scored 57 points. Leclerc has finished in the points twice, at best 7th in Russia.
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Post by: Penfold on October 22, 2018, 09:31:12 AM
It goes without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway, that Ferrari should take note of these recent results and announce Kimi & Ericsson as their drivers for 2019.

Post no. 999.  Better make the next one a classic....
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Post by: Penfold on October 25, 2018, 03:02:47 AM
... or perhaps a good news story -  Niki Lauda has left hospital and is in good condition after having received a lung transplant back in August: https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/24/lauda-released-from-hospital-after-lung-transplant/
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Post by: Chrill on October 25, 2018, 07:46:34 AM
Really happy to hear. The Austrian rat surely has 9 lives too, just like a cat. Can't wait to have that grumpy man back in the paddock.
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Post by: Chrill on October 29, 2018, 07:54:41 AM
Three drivers have won 5 or more World Championships - Fangio, Schumacher, Hamilton. The Mercedes F1 Team has always had one of these guys in a car whenever they enter a race. Dating back to the first Mercedes entry in 1954, at least one of those three man have raced a Mercedes whenever the team entered a race. Neat little factoid.
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Post by: Chrill on December 07, 2018, 02:25:21 AM
I'm sure you have heard of Alx Danielsson. No? Well, he once tested a Renault F1 car back in 2007 after winning Formula Renault 3.5 Series in 2006. He's part of a Swedish F1 fan group on Facebook, and today confirmed that in late 2007 he signed a 3-year agreement to race for Super Aguri 2008-2010. Now, Super Aguri folded four races into 2008, but those four races were saw Anthony Davidson and Takuma Sato driving them Super Aguris. Aww how close we got to having a Swede in F1 back then!
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Post by: Penfold on December 07, 2018, 03:04:14 AM
Oh yeah, Alx Danielsson, of course I remember him from back in his Formula Renault days....
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Post by: Chrill on December 08, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
You really have let yourself go in the off-season, not even bothering to give the boy a far-fetched nickname.
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Post by: Penfold on December 10, 2018, 02:46:43 AM
As if I'm going to give this Karate Kid guy a nickname when he's not even a current driver....
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Post by: Chrill on December 10, 2018, 05:55:59 AM
Fair enough.

Give me nicknames on the following:

Giovinazzi
Norris
The Torpedo
One-Armed Bandit
Albon
Russell
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Post by: Penfold on December 10, 2018, 06:35:36 AM
Still not sure whether to go with The One-Armed Bandit for Kubica... I can see people considering it a little on the cruel side, even though it's not meant that way.

Norris is of course Chuck Norris, or simply Chuck; Albon will henceforth be called Blur (aka Not as good as Oasis); Russell is to be called Jack - after the former cricketer rather than the breed of dog; Giovinazzi can be Adam Ant; and, umm, Kvyat... well I think The Torpedo is quite apt.
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Post by: Chrill on December 10, 2018, 08:04:16 AM
Alright, so to sum it up:

Giovinazzi - Stuart Leslie Goddard
Norris - Nope, Chuck Testa!
Kvyat - Self-propelled weapon with an explosive warhead
Kubica - Roulette Table (because one-armed bandit is cruel)
Albon - Parklife
Russell - Snoop (Jack Russell -> Dog -> Snoop Dogg)


Thanks!
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Post by: Penfold on December 11, 2018, 04:59:01 AM
I never did care for that Parklife song, and I really don't want it popping into my head every time I write Albon's name, so he'll have to be simply 'Blur' or 'Not Oasis' for me.  Think I'll go with 'Fruit Machine' for Kubica.

Or... Alexander Albon could be 'Twelve Steps'.
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Post by: Chrill on December 11, 2018, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: Penfold on December 11, 2018, 04:59:01 AMThink I'll go with 'Fruit Machine' for Kubica.
You'll have to explain this one to me.

Quote from: Penfold on December 11, 2018, 04:59:01 AMOr... Alexander Albon could be 'Twelve Steps'.
I got this reference.
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Post by: Penfold on December 12, 2018, 01:52:12 AM
British name for a slot machine (they use pictures of various fruits on the spinning bits!), operated by a single arm back in the olden days.
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Post by: Chrill on December 12, 2018, 02:07:57 AM
Fair enough. We literally call them "enarmad bandit", like, that's the actual official proper name for them. I bet you can figure that one out on your own.
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Post by: Penfold on December 29, 2018, 06:17:33 AM
Ahh, now I see it.... ;)
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Post by: Chrill on January 07, 2019, 03:42:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l6-Oj17lD4

Zanardi getting in and out of the Daytona car. Impressive.
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Post by: Penfold on January 07, 2019, 04:50:22 AM
Good old Zanardi.  Talking of old... I can't believe his last F1 outing was almost two decades ago.

In other news: I see Niki Lauda is in hospital with the flu; hopefully they'll get it sorted and send the old (that word again) warhorse back to the (F1) trenches.
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Post by: Penfold on June 25, 2019, 01:57:20 AM
Unfortunately they did not.

News from JCB who, with a little help from Williams Advanced Engineering, have gone and smashed the speed record for tractors, setting a new mark of 103.6 mph: https://www.thedrive.com/news/28665/103-mph-jcb-tractor-tuned-by-williams-f1-breaks-british-speed-record

Proper job, as they say down in the West Country.
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Post by: Chrill on June 27, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
Welcome to DReSden Airport.
(https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65248138_10156474787391395_5482330336626999296_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQk78mXpcHMdiOIYxKGX2UNj88mFOLh56s9SXCUs0isdq21NPNSvOLdMlUG9d1D4ZLU&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=362f8f8b015c82dc654038a0cceaf567&oe=5DB6DA39)
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Post by: Penfold on June 28, 2019, 12:33:03 AM
Someone needs to get that on a T-shirt to start flogging at F1 races.  Imagine the sales....
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Post by: Chrill on June 28, 2019, 01:08:17 AM
There will be at least 5 people wearing it ironically. 5 every GP weekend, that must justify flying to every race and selling those.
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Post by: Chrill on July 29, 2019, 06:43:40 AM
https://youtu.be/xHDmbVN9IiE

Mick Schumacher driving his daddy's F2004. He's pushing it, too, this is no soft ride. On the first lap, he locks up massively at the same place Vettel crashed out in 2018. Good on Mick, not taking it too slowly. The sound, too, oh so beautiful.
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Post by: Penfold on January 20, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
Not of interest to anyone but me, but Channel 4's race highlights programmes will now be showing 70% of the action up from just 50% last year.  This takes C4 back to the level of coverage enjoyed for the non-live races during their 2012-18 deal with Sky.  Link which nobody has any reason to read: https://motorsportbroadcasting.com/2020/01/17/channel-4s-f1-race-edit-to-revert-to-extended-highlights-format-for-2020/

The highlights last year were at times pretty hard going, that extra twenty percent makes quite a difference to the flow of a race.
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Post by: Chrill on February 07, 2020, 12:59:47 AM
The 2nd season of Drive to Survive, due to be released on February 28th, has been spoiled by Lando Norris. He recently announced who wins the championship at the end of the series.

It's... Lewis Hamilton
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Post by: Penfold on February 07, 2020, 01:18:27 AM
So that means Mercedes wins again... un-fucking-believable.
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Post by: Chrill on December 07, 2020, 04:29:27 AM
Let's do some facts for the 2020 Sakhir Grand Prix:

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Post by: Penfold on December 07, 2020, 06:00:41 AM
See now that explains why I couldn't remember an occasion when we had three mid-season driver changes between two races.

Nineteen of my fellow countrymen have won a GP... I wonder how many I could name if I put my mind to it.  Let's see: Mike Hawthorn, John Surtees, Stirling Moss, Jim Clark, Tony Brooks, Peter Collins, Graham & Damon Hill, James Hunt, Jackie Stewart, Nigel Mansell, Johnny Herbert, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton.... Hmm, sixteen.  I'll have to think about this some more.
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Post by: Chrill on December 07, 2020, 07:18:16 AM
You've missed three names, then. John Watson (won 3 races between 1976 and 1983), Innes Ireland  (1961 Indy 500, so that doesn't count) and Peter Gethin. Gethin, of course, won  the1971 Italian GP, famous for five drivers literally finishing alongside each other (Howden Ganley in P5 finished 0.61 seconds behind Gethin).
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Post by: Penfold on December 11, 2020, 02:02:28 AM
I always forget that Watson raced F1....
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Post by: Chrill on January 29, 2021, 12:57:31 AM
WTF1 posted on Instagram encouraging fans to make their preferred grid if you could only have one driver per nationality. That means you have to fire two of Hamilton, Rulsell, and Norris. You also need to lose Schumacher or Vettel (or both, for someone like Hulkenberg), Kvyat/Mazepin, Ocon/Gasly, Bottas/Raikkonen and Stroll/Latifi.

I put my grid together a little like this:

Mercedes:
George Russell, GBR
Valtteri Bottas, FIN

Red Bull:
Max Verstappen, NLD
Alexander Albon, THA (courtesy of being from a more unique country!)

McLaren
Daniel Ricciardo, AUS
Felix Rosenqvist, SWE (driving for them in IndyCar, and preferred over Ericsson)

Aston Martin:
Sergio Perez, MEX
Lance Stroll, CAN (huh, they'd keep their driver pairing. Where does that leave Vettel...?)

Alpine:
Pierre Gasly, FRA (superior to the Frenchie originally driving this car)
Alexander Rossi, USA (a slot was left, and he is a driver)

Ferrari:
Charles Leclerc, MON
Carlos Sainz, SPA

AlphaTauri:
Yuki Tsunoda, JAP
Jüri Vips, EST (the strongest Red Bull junior not from a country already listed)

Alfa Romeo:
Antonio Giovinazzi, ITA
Marcus Armstrong, NZL (like Vips but for Ferrari)

Haas:
Mick Schumacher, GER (he's perhaps the future, but Vettel is definitely the past)
Kevin Magnussen, DEN

Williams:
Daniil Kvyat, RUS (Let's be honest, if Mazepin is his rival then we prefer Kvyat)
Stoffel vandoorne, BEL

So I dropped:
Hamilton and Norris for Russell
Alonso for Sainz
Ocon for Gasly
Räikkönen for Bottas
Vettel for Schumacher
Mazepin for Kvyat
Latifi for Stroll

That left 8 gaps to be filled by:
Albon
Rosenqvist
Rossi
Vips
Armstrong
Magnussen
Kvyat
Vandoorne
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Post by: Penfold on February 01, 2021, 02:11:10 AM
It's an interesting experiment.  Sadly I don't follow the junior formulas enough to chuck any different names into the mix, so the only change I'd consider is keeping Norris instead of Russell... but then who gets the second Merc seat?
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Post by: Chrill on February 01, 2021, 02:55:12 AM
Quote from: Penfold on February 01, 2021, 02:11:10 AM
It's an interesting experiment.  Sadly I don't follow the junior formulas enough to chuck any different names into the mix, so the only change I'd consider is keeping Norris instead of Russell... but then who gets the second Merc seat?
If Norris is your remaining Brit, perhaps Mercedes would try to steal Leclerc or Verstappen?
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Post by: Penfold on February 01, 2021, 04:00:26 AM
Good idea, I'll have them nick Max.  Now just need a team leader for Red Bull... Ricciardo? Ha, that appeals to me and also means Norris has his McLaren seat back.

So it's:

Mercedes:
Max Ain't No Stappen Me Now, NLD
Valtteri Bottas, FIN

Red Bull:
Daniel Ricciardo, AUS
Alexander Albon, THA (courtesy of being from a more unique country!)

McLaren
Lando Norris, UK
Felix Rosenqvist, SWE (driving for them in IndyCar, and preferred over Ericsson)

Aston Martin:
Sergio Perez, MEX
Lance Stroll, CAN (huh, they'd keep their driver pairing. Where does that leave Vettel...?)

Alpine:
Pierre Gasly, FRA (superior to the Frenchie originally driving this car)
Alexander Rossi, USA (a slot was left, and he is a driver)

Ferrari:
Charles Leclerc, MON
Carlos Sainz, SPA

AlphaTauri:
Yuki Tsunoda, JAP
Jüri Vips, EST (the strongest Red Bull junior not from a country already listed)

Alfa Romeo:
Antonio Giovinazzi, ITA
Marcus Armstrong, NZL (like Vips but for Ferrari)

Haas:
Mick Schumacher, GER (he's perhaps the future, but Vettel is definitely the past)
Kevin Magnussen, DEN

Williams:
Daniil Kvyat, RUS (Let's be honest, if Mazepin is his rival then we prefer Kvyat)
Stoffel Vandoorne, BEL


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Post by: Penfold on February 01, 2021, 04:02:02 AM
I'm going to ponder on alternatives for a couple of them, in particular Toffee Van Door.
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Post by: Chrill on February 01, 2021, 05:39:15 AM
I'll help you out a bit. If we assume that Toffifee is not in the running, you can bring in drivers from:

Belgium (Vandoorne)
Luxembourg (literally nobody I know of)
Switzerland (Louis Delétraz and Ralph Boschung in F2, Nico Müller, Edoardo Mortara, and Sebastien Buemi in Formula E)
Austria (see Luxembourg)
Portugal (Antonio Felix da Costa in Formula E)
Norway (there's a guy in F3 named Dennis Hauger. Attached to Red Bull)
Eastern Europe excluding Russia (Kubica is the only one really, I already got Vips from Estonia)

Asia except Japan (Sean Gelael, Jehan Daruvala, and Guanyu Zhou in F2)

Africa (Nope, sorry)

Middle East (Nope, sorry)

Brazil (Pietro Fittipaldi of Haas fame, Pedro Piquet of little to no fame, Felipe Drugovich in F2)
Argentina (a kid named Franco Colapinto has been successful in Toyota Racing Series and the Formula Renault Eurocup, he is moving to F3 this year)
USA (I put Rossi in there, you could go for Colton Herta instead)
Rest of the Americas (Zane Maloney of Barbados won the British F4 and will race in the new F3 "Formula Regional" for this season, plus there's some people from Colombia and Paraguay in F4)

The standout nations in my list of junior racing talents are definitely Barbados and Estonia, neither of which have produced many motorsporting stars at all (Ott Tänak of Estonia was the 2019 WRC champion). Jüri Vips of Estonia will be in F2 this season.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Chrill on February 01, 2021, 06:33:37 AM
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.juan-manuel-correa-to-make-sensational-racing-return-in-f3-after-recovering.3pKVhOV2gRzJbbYed07h7v.html

And this guy. Really thrilled to hear he's (likely) able to return to a race car, albeit in F3 instead of F2.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on February 02, 2021, 05:14:59 AM
Hmm, no wonder you plumped for Van Door... Seems I'll have to stick with the Toffee guy as well.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Chrill on June 07, 2021, 05:38:53 PM
This seems like a suitable topic for this fact:

Only 1 driver has actually scored points in all 6 races this year:
Lando Norris

Yeah. I mean, you might argue that Leclerc has scored points in all races he took part in, which is accurate. But he DNSed in Monaco.

Obviously Max and Lewis failed to score in Baku. Perez finished 11th at Imola, Sainz 11th in Portugal. Gasly DNFed in Bahrain, Ricciardo was lapped in Monaco en route to 12th, and Bottas clearly retired twice and failed to show up once (Baku).

On a similar note, Vettel scored points for just the 2nd time this year but is ahead of Ricciardo who scored points at 5 of the 6 races so far.
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Chrill on March 02, 2022, 06:19:39 AM
I'm sure this falls under the "irrelevant F1 stuff" part of this topic. I got a tattoo! My first one, at that. All a bit sore now, but your job is to identify the year and make of this car. Some artistic liberties are present to ensure the details are not too overwhelming, so that may make it more difficult.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvZqgSdQ/20220302-113202.jpg)
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 03, 2022, 02:49:25 AM
Oh for a splash of colour....

First instinct was Ferrari, but nose cone makes me think the 2020 Renault
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Chrill on March 03, 2022, 06:10:53 AM
No! It's the Mercedes nose of 2018. I mean, I would've preferred a Ferrari but that car was the only one I could find a suitable sketching of

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/73/590x/Mercedes-F1-car-launch-2018-Bottas-922436.jpg)
Title: Re: Irrelevant F1 Facts and News and Stuff
Post by: Penfold on March 08, 2022, 01:50:55 AM
Ahh yes, just couldn't bring to mind who had that little slot at the top of the nose cone