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Re: Future Sounds of F1
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2017, 02:30:53 AM »
Quite frankly, F1 should be about show and entertainment. I'm mostly for that.

I don't mind if F1 becomes a single-engine manufacturer series, if all teams then develop their own aerodynamics. I don't really watch F1 to cheer for Mercedes, or before them Renault, Toyota, Jaguar, Honda, etc. I cheer for teams genuinely in F1 because it's F1, such as (at least in part) Ferrari, as well as Sauber, Force India and Williams.

Most of all, I cheer for drivers. That's why I was always fond of Barrichello, or was fond of Massa (PICK HIM FOR FIRST DRIVER!) up until perhaps the second half of this season. That's why I'm a big fan of Kamui Kobayashi, of Esteban Ocon, of Robert Kubica. Kinda like Nick Heidfeld too.

I don't care about manufacturers showcasing their tech, I care about great racing which is fun to watch for 90 minutes every second Sunday.

If we lose Mercedes and Renault, and we replace them with 3-4 teams from Formula 2/3, I would be totally ok with that.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2017, 01:24:06 AM »
And Ferrari does their "threaten to quit" dance which they always do when something is about change in F1. Maybe they can move to Formula E  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2017, 02:25:14 AM »
I don't care about manufacturers showcasing their tech, I care about great racing which is fun to watch for 90 minutes every second Sunday.

If we lose Mercedes and Renault, and we replace them with 3-4 teams from Formula 2/3, I would be totally ok with that.

As the guy I quoted in previous post said, not only are none of the current manufacturers happy with proposal to ditch the MGU-H & partly standardize components, but some of those not yet in F1 view the idea negatively.  So who will be stumping up the nine figure sum required to develop a new engine?  And why even drop the MGU-H?  It plays a significant role in the incredible efficiency of current engines (lighter fuel load), manufacturers seem keen on them as a tech to work on, and I'm sure even Honda will have a viable version by 2021.  Seems like a pointless battle for the FIA/Ross Brawn to pick - and one they will probably concede.

For me, F1 is as much about the fight between teams as that between drivers.  Cap their budgets, distribute moneys more evenly, and specify as few technical restrictions as possible - one of which will be skinny front wings!

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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2017, 02:26:48 AM »
And Ferrari does their "threaten to quit" dance which they always do when something is about change in F1. Maybe they can move to Formula E  ;D
What's that make it... bluff no. 17?

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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2017, 01:32:51 AM »
Ilmor and Cosworth sing praises of proposed engine simplification as it will lower the financial barrier to entry, but, and it's quite a big but, they also say that investment from an external backer would be required before they could contemplate making an F1 engine.  In other words they still need a car company to pump in some dosh, and as I said previously the noises out of the FIA engine chat was that some of the prospective candidates were less than keen on having key components either standardized or unable to be developed.  So all the FIA has to figure out is how to make the engines cheaper to develop and yet still technologically interesting to the car industry... sounds easy enough.

Ilmor/Cosworth story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/41886707

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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2017, 06:24:13 AM »
At least it does sound like a Red Bull Aston Martin engine will be produced, if these rules do come into effect. I think the beverage boys have been pushing for these regulations quite strongly.
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2017, 04:45:57 AM »
They have been pushing with all their might.  For some odd reason, Red Bull is as keen as mustard for F1 to have far greater (or total) engine parity... perhaps some of the smaller teams should push for standardized chassis to help mitigate the 'unfair' advantage enjoyed by wealthy boys such as Red Bull.

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Re: Future Sounds of F1
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2018, 06:11:55 AM »
McLaren could build own engine for 2020 (but probably won't): https://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2018/01/10/mclaren-keeping-open-mind-building-f1-engine-2020/

Guess much depends on how they fare with Renault units for these next couple of years.